aha... you arent a member? The egroup (actually it's a Yahoo! group now) was formed in August 2001... as a way to reward the hardiest of 3dCC fans. I set up a secret page and we have our own forum. Recently we stopped taking new members, because we are going to change formats to keep the forum within the 3dCC's control. Soon you'll have access to quite a few "secret" files. For hints about some of the past secrets, go to my home page at www.sturkwurk.com Doug

I came, I rendered, I'm still broke.