I may not be able to do any more with thew battle nun, the scene file is 800 meg, when I open it in carrara it takes up 4.5 gig of my 8. Then I click render and it starts filling grid and rendering. With out the HDRI lighting it's eating 93% of my ram and 96% of my cpu.    And explains why I don't do complex scenes. I have a few scenes I have abandoned because they got to difficult to work.

That is close to final for this one I think. Just turning in to a big pane to work. I hate the floor texture, looks a lot better in Genetica, just losing something in the bump map. Going to save it here and do a HDRI lit render this evening.