Thanks again for the continuing support! Yes I do see the texture when I render a single frame and yes I am rendering in firefly. I did change the settings as you suggested and rendered a series of png files. I have never recomposed them into an avi file before and seems like an extra step I wish I didn't have to take. I am also wondering how useful it will be to me as my end purpose is to animate the skin on a dragon and then cut the footage of the dragon into live action footage...might be totally doable once I see how you reassemble as a movie...but like I said wish it wasn't necessary! Your work sounds fascinating and beautiful!