Thanks, hborre... if you hadn't posted I wouldn't have realised there was text there...

As to the DS customer and DS being free thing... just a point here; if you get (free) DS to use Genesis, you pay for the figures and the gear... a LOT. DAZ is not a charity, they have a business model to generate income from their products, hence the really DO have customers.

Lecturer in business and law hat put aside now... back to Poser!

I'm interested in this discussion for one thing, though... I've heard DS4.7's native renderer is slower than firefly and has less control over IDL lighting. Is that true?

I'll have to look at using Blender as an option, but I'd be happy enough if we got instancing and GPU support for Firefly. Being able to do what Carrara can do would be VERY nice!