"have a look over my G'kids shoulder now an then and never seen a game that looks good let alone realistic"

Yes, because in terms of art "good" and "realistic" are synonymous. I'm nearing 50, love gaming, and have seen countless fantastic, beautiful things and environments therein... all of which I could enjoy with immersive freedom. Hopefully I can be around for another 50 to see where all of this is going. Sorry, of course you're entitled to your own perception, but comments like the above raise my hackles... especially on a presupposed ART forum.