Boni, with all due respect and gratitude to you, the whole point of the thread i started earlier was an attempt by us to point out to Renderosity what we wanted from them. They showed they're contempt by not even bothering to acknowledge that they even read the thread. We STILL don't know if they did read it, even though you said you sent them links. Read my first optimistic response to Gliterrati. The Admins helped kill that optimism in me.