Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: OT :Hinders ,New album ,When The Smoke Clears

RorrKonn opened this issue on May 06, 2015 · 62 posts


pumeco posted Sun, 10 May 2015 at 8:46 PM

No, I don't "look up" to him, and like I said, I don't agree with everything the guy says, but I do understand why he hates what he hates, and why he wants out.
I think you jumped the gun a bit, I jump the gun alot myself, it's easy done.

And that stuff you do agree with him on, yes indeed.

The reason I brought up ildjarn is because I get sick of seeing mockery in everything, and Metal is the one genre of music I thought I'd finally be able to escape all the commercialism and political correctness bullshit.  The fact that you refer to him as a "fascist kook" is contradictory to what you said earlier when you said he's not a deviant.  Like I said, it's pretty clear to me that ildjarn is a deviant, and that's one of the things that fascinates me about him.  For the genre of Metal, I decided I want to hear what a real deviant produces, and that's what I get from ildjarn.  Unlike most of those bands, he's not a pussy posing as a hard nut, he's not even attempting to come off as a hard nut as far as I'm concerned.  This is why I asked you to compare the images surrounding him to those surrounding Meshuggah.  I asked for real deviants and you gave me Meshuggah, give me a break.  It took just one second on Google images to smell the commercialism - deviant my arse :-D

Posing as a hard nut is what you saw when you Googled Meshuggah, not when you Googled ildjarn - give the guy credit where it's due.
I'm not dismissing Meshuggah, I'm just saying they're not really what I'd call deviant.

So yes, the guy is a deviant, and I'm pleased to have come across his work, cause not only do I like his work, it's kinda cool to be able to relate to a lot of the stuff the artist talks about - it just adds to it somehow.  No, I don't care for everything the guy says, and if he ever met me he'd probably hate my guts as well, we'd probably tear each other to shreds, but it's rare to almost impossible to be able to listen to something that comes from the mind of a deviant (a real one) - but that's what I want from Metal - and that's what I get from ildjarn.

No dangerous axes at all in this one :