hornet3d opened this issue on May 16, 2015 · 532 posts
hornet3d posted Mon, 18 May 2015 at 10:15 AM
I don't think this thread has been particularly hostile. People have a right to critique a figure or product they paid good money for, and if those critiques are angry then there's a reason for that.
The hostility in the community overall is something that's been frustrating to me for quite a while now, but I can't do anything about it because the PTB won't let me. So as long as people aren't killing each other, this is pretty much the way it is. It's also a big reason why most content artists/vendors avoid the forums these days.
Constructive criticism is always better than outright bashing for the sake of bashing. I don't think I've spotted any direct attacks on Sixus1's character as a person. Negative reviews are part of the game and require a thick skin. Having people tell you it's good when it's really not, just to spare your feelings doesn't help you or anybody else. If you (and I mean you in general here - not anyone in particular), can't handle your work being called crap when it's crap then you need to find a different job, and any studio will tell you that. And I'm not saying Scarlet is crap - I haven't touched her. I don't think she is, she just has some issues. There are other figures out there that really are crap. Some of them exist in everyone's Poser runtime.
Well, Valandar insinuates that I'm lying -- though why I'd do that, he doesn't say. I guess I'm just basically a dishonest person or something. LOL. But, you know, insinuations... surely "he didn't mean it that way", right? However, I do take issue with the "release a piece of shit" and "ripping people off" statement by shvrdavid. To accuse someone of ripping people off is a direct attack on that vendor's character. And "piece of shit" is outright hostile language. If those things are acceptable -- and the former is actually legal grounds for a defamation suit -- then just about anything is.
Edit: When you insult someone in the forums, you may hurt their feelings. When you bash a vendor, you're hurting his feelings and his livelihood. If he has a lawyer, he could get the forum shut down.
Well if you are lying then I guess I am as well because I do not see a lot of the problems in the renders either. OK I had to run the the figure through a few scripts alike SceneFixer and EZskin, I have switched on subdevision and the GC is an annoyance for me but that does not make her unusable even in this form. To tell you the truth I have even had some fun playing with the figure to try a see what can be done. I am not gushing and I accept that there are issues and the promo was maybe not reflective of reality but then few promos are. If people really feel cheated then I think they should be given an refund and I can understand them becoming irate but then it is not the vendor refusing the refund. I have hated the DAZ - SM wars that have raged over the past few years as I do not think it helps the community one bit, but they are big companies no-one there is really going to get upset. That is not the same here, the target is a couple of individuals who are no doubt proud of the efforts so far, just like my renders I know they are far from perfect but that does not mean I am not proud of them. While the tone of the thread my not be very different from others the fact that it is individual vendors in the firing line changes it for me. Sad to say I think we have sunk to a new low here and to think when I started the thread I thought the worse that could happen is it could turn into the usual DAZ/SM bun fight, how wrong can you be.
I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 - Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU . The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.