Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: self deactivation of genuine poser gamedev

Glad0s30 opened this issue on May 30, 2015 · 19 posts


hornet3d posted Mon, 01 June 2015 at 4:34 AM

I don't understand how it is so easy to defeat the protection - but clearly it isn't worth doing if the crack reached the public just days after the product was released.

Is there any program that can't be cracked? I sort of doubt it. The people that do that are some of the best programmers in the world. Are there other programs that check in as well? Yes, there are 1000's upon 1000's of them.

This type of licensing setup is big money, and it is here to stay.

Smart phones check in, computers programs check in, your cable box checks in, Many new cars check in, (Onstar, etc)

Many used car lots now put devices in the cars to GPS track it, and to keep it from starting if you forget to pay on the loan. 

To all those people that have these, are you fine with those things constantly checking in? Did you even know they do?

If your cable box cant check in, it blocks all the stations, wont have a guide, etc, If your smart phone cant, well you are not going to make any calls then either.

If anyone thinks for a min that this is going away, it is not.

All credit cards will soon require RF chips by law and wont work if you take it out. So you will be checking in whenever you walk near a reader. And those things are all over the place, in just about every store by the door, etc. You will still be able to pay with cash. But the store knows you when you walked in, and when you went out if that card is in your wallet....

Saying you are not going to put up with it, does not change the fact that you already are on more fronts than you might first realize.

The difference is you didn't realize it, or dont really care about the other ones because they are not inconvenient.

Yes having to do something to unlock it can be a pain, but at least you know it wants to check in. The stuff mentioned earlier never even asks you to do so....

You have to pay your cable bill to keep the box unlocked, same with your cell phone. SM is not charging to unlock it are they?

Food for thought...

Anyone that is not happy about this, is allowed to have that opinion and I am not saying that you should not. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. 

If you are moving on because of it, that is your choice. Just keep in mind that most computer programs are going to this. And most of the ones on your cell phone and tablet already have. Anything that is subscription based is as well.

I am not 100% sold on the idea but at the same time I realize that it is nothing new, or going away either.

I understand all that and agree with pretty well all of it and, while I don't like the the deactivation feature very much, I accept SM have the right to implement it.   The biggest objection I have is the way it was introduced and the confusion surrounding it.  Yes other companies do it but for SM it was a change in the way the program worked and that change was not made clear to purchasers so they could decide if they wanted to accept the change. The web site now states that both Poser 10 and Poser 2014 have the same activation requirement which would be a retrospective action so again it was not something Poser users would have been aware of when they purchased those versions of Poser.

To give credit to Nerd3D he has now stated that this is not the case with Poser 10 and 2014 and it only applies to the Game Dev version as first thought.  Not his fault but that information is at odds to the web site so initially no information was there and now what is there is is wrong.

Is SM worse than any other company, of course not, and they, like all the others, have a right to do what they are doing but I do think they also have a responsibility to make the information clear to the people that pay good money for their product.

Having worked in the mobile phone industry I know what you are saying is true, and then some, which is why I choose not to have a smart phone.  I used the credit cards online mostly for Rendo, although that looks as though that is coming to a end for other reasons.  Other than on line I mainly use cash and often when I go out that is all I carry, the cards stay at home.  OK has minimal impact but I have some idea of what is going on and make my decisions accordingly.

So one of my complaints is that I am not sure what is going on at SM.  According to Nerd3D they are looking again at the process and my hope is that, whatever they decide, it is made communicated to the potential purchasers before they buy and also make it clear if the new system will be applied to older versions.  Others may disagree but I do not think that is an unfair request.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.