@All
I think there's a lot of extremely good points made in this thread, but (yup, there's always a but) ...

Have to say I think that in general, Renderosity do things right when it comes to what they do and don't allow to be sold or shown here.  Renderosity is a business, and as such, it needs to push what is acceptable and to allow it, and I think they do a damn good job of that if I'm totally honest about it.  I once said to the then bosses over at DAZ, that their TOS must be costing them a fortune by being so prudish.  They clearly aim to be a family friendly site, and there's nothing wrong with that, but from a business point of view, they're dismissing one very important factor, and it is this ...

It's adults that own credit cards, not children.

For that reason alone, Renderosity has it right, cause unlike DAZ, Renderosity cater for both adult and family-based stuff.  If Renderosity became a prude, I reckon their profits would drop like crazy, they'd probably even go out of business if they tried doing that.  We all know what sells here and we all know why, so to remove them just so that the kiddies can hang around in a family-friendly environment, would be a bad idea.  There's DAZ for those people, cause DAZ have that corner of the marked well sorted.

My opinions of the three big sites are as follows:

• DAZ feels like a semi-pleasant place, but also feels way too overbearing due to protecting their family-friendly image.
• Renderotica feels like a very forgiving place, a cool and seedy hangout that is adult in nature, but still feels professional and respectful.
• Renderosity feels like a sensible balance of the two, so a thumbs-up to them for that.

I'm permanently banned from DAZ, and while I miss the place sometimes, it takes only a few minutes of catching-up on the forums over there to get bored.  Everyone's so nice over there (but often it makes them sound so false).  It's like they've had their personalities sucked from them.  Then I come back here and it's like a breath of fresh air to the point where I'm often glad I got banned from there, I could never behave like they behave.

Here, we have people saying what they think, speaking their mind, posting stuff that they know will push other people's buttons, and then enjoying the reaction to it when it does.  Basically, on here, we have people being human.  It's why so many people threaten to leave but never quite manage it (myself included).  At the end of the day, if someone said to me, right, one of those three forums have to go, never to be seen again, so which one gets the chop?

It would have to be DAZ that has to go, because I wouldn't want to be without the liberal adult nature that Renderotica is, and I wouldn't want to be without the respectful nature that Renderosity has, which basically amounts to them trusting adults to be adults, and having the sense not to cross the line.

@Hornet
I agree with some of what you said, but there's nothing wrong with women being seen as the victim, it's just a staple form of erotica, and it's something the women get as much enjoyment out of as the men do.  Such things range from simple and subconscious things, right up to blatant domination.  A typical example of simple and subconcious erotica is that render Clarkie posted recently, with Roxie stood by the water dispenser.  He might not realise it, but her posing with her arms behind her back is a form of erotica and 'self-victim'.  She's not helpless, but having her arms behind her back subconciously makes her more vulnerable and victim-like.  With her arm beside her, the effect would be lost.  You'll often see women posed with their arms above their head for the same reason (to symbolise helplessness), or girls with short skirts placed next to something that could potentially get up that skirt.

It's all erotica and victimisation.

At the other end of the scale, there's something like Vadim Glowna's take on "House of the Sleeping Beauties".  I specifically say Vadim Glowna's take, because there's a few of these types of film out there, but this version especially feels like it's done right.  A film like this turns the term "victim" on it's head, because the women willingly accept pament to be given an injection that puts them into a deep sleep while they stay at a fancy establishment where wealthy men pay to share a bed with these "Sleeping Beauties".  There are rules though, you can only touch, pose, and kiss those helpless women, penetration is forbidden.

Who is the "victim" (if there even is one at all)?

• The women who willingly offer themselves into this service for large amounts of money?
• The wealthy men who are being charged epic amounts so they can look at a naked sleeping women all night long, in any pose they wish?
• Is it worth it for the women, even though this is a professionally run, protected environment?
• is it worth it for the men who get to play all night long with naked, sleeping beauties?

There's are a few of these types of movies out there, and I suppose the ones I've seen so far, are all good really.  But if you ever fancy questioning yourself about who are the victims, then this version, by Vadim Glowna, will really make you think.  In fact if you saw it you'd probably thank me profusely for pointing out such a well directed and beautifully shot film, one that really leaves you thinking.  Shibari, despite it's roots, is essentially just a different form of helplessness, it's a form of domination erotica, and there's nothing wrong with that when it's willing (there is no real victim). 

Anyway, here's the trailer for "House of the Sleeping Beauties" (it's a German film, but the DVD has English subtitles which are essential for this film):