I think that you're still missuderstanding me. Let me clarify: 1) Daz produce some cd's of motions that use mostly motion capture and I believe, can be used with Victoria. 2) The Forge produced PoseAmation Volume 1 in 1998 for Poser 3, it was updated in 99 for Poser 4. None of these files will work with Michael or Victoria due to the differences in joint structure and grouping. 3) The Forge stopped selling cd's and began distributing PoseAmation as downloads only, selling it as full cd contents, as individual downloads and as small packs of related actions. 4) When Daz opened their on-line shop, they asked us if they could sell PoseAmation in their shop as well. They decided not to sell the full cd contents and rather than use the packs that we had assembled for our website sales, they decided to bundle the actions in their own way - combining scnes from both the Poser and BVH versions of PoseAmation 1. 5) In the near future, we plan to revise the animation from PoseAmation 1 and 2 for use with Michael and Victoria but it hasn't happened yet. That should clear things up a little. :') Chris