MistyLaraCarrara opened this issue on Jun 03, 2015 · 355 posts
jura11 posted Fri, 12 June 2015 at 1:02 PM
Wow, another pointless exercise in futility.
What's the direction for PP2015?
How about adding an instant DAZ Studio bash button.
Seems the main thing people bang on about around here.
Typical convo goes a little like.
"Do you think Smith Micro might be able to add 'X' to Poser as the current implementation is not very good?"
"You DAZ STUDIO Lover! What are you even doing here no one want to hear about your DAZ STUDIO obsession!"
"But I didn't even mention DS I was just saying that it would be good to see some improvement with 'X' in Poser..."
"No!!! You are wrong why do you need to always defend Daz Studio. I will not listen to anything you say, because YOU ARE DAZ STUDIO and therefore "A" the enemy and "B" always wrong!"
I mean it's so crazy that you even see two dedicated Poser users descend very quickly into an argument about DS, that's totally unrelated to their own actual comments or the even the threads subject. Disagree=Attack DS is pretty much the formula for threads here. The assumption that it's those DS users showing up causing issues here is pure fantasy.
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The DAZ drug dealer analogy is just bizarre too, lol, I mean really. Btw, Are you ready for Windows 10? I also don't really see how a company based on community inclusiveness for product content creation can be seen as a monopoly. Doesn't a monopolistic company usually do the opposite?
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How hard is it to keep a thread on topic and not talk to each other like complete crap for just voicing opinions that differ from your own...
Agree drug analogy is bizarre and wrong,but I'm standing what I've said about the OpenCL and other things I'm just fed up with people who trying to say,everything is great with DAZ and DAZ doesn't have any flaws,every SW have flaws that's how is build,I don't know any SW which has been flawless from start
As we are said,what we are want to add,I want better GPU scaling,instancing etc.,do we are tried say anything about the DS where is bad.we are said,IRAY is not good for us who owning AMD card,bloody hell,please read!
Did ever been free version of the Windows? I just don't think has been any version of Windows free,then I'm not sure what you mean,I don't be upgrading to W10,that's for sure,W7 is enough for me and if will be supported that's good for me,unless AMD and other companies will pull the plug,which I don't think this will happen right now,I don't play and due this I wouldn't benefiting from DirectX 12
And about the monopoly,monopoly can be seen from different sides,they act as monopoly is many ways as every company
As above I said,what I know and what I want from SM as starting place,better lights,supporting at least bloody Mesh lights,better multicore/multi threaded support in Viewport etc
Thanks,Jura
In short, I think you lost your argument when you decided not to go with actual facts to defend your position and instead went with bashing DS and accusing me of defending DAZ. I'm still waiting on iray add-on links and actual defending of your points. Arguing about future product features that will be better than current offerings of a different company is moot until they actually happen. You may end up spending additional money because that new feature may only work with certain hardware. You won't know until it releases. And as far as GPU rendering goes, there is a reason that most major renderers are Nvidia only. Adding OpenCL or mixing CPU and GPU means compatibility, but the performance will be less than pure GPU power Nvidia cards offer. So if you want faster renderers, you pick the appropriate hardware. OpenCL and AMD isn't the hardware of choice for that. And there is no monopoly. Period. There are other companies that provide content and figures. It's up to the customers who decide who they pay their money to because of the quality of their products, because their money is precious to them and they could care less about the political speculation some want to perpetuate in the forums.
Hi there As many people pointed out and I've posted results from IRAY: X5670 OC to 4.4Ghz 6 core/12 threads render took around 1 hour and 30mins,GPU 560Ti render took 39 mins,due this this render feature is for me useless and does have better results than Firefly,not much,but yes is better,but you will pay for that dearly...Is better than Reality,no way.
IRAY addon links do you want which ones,from DAZ vendors ?
Due this feature(CUDA) I've never went with Octane as I would need bigger VRAM for my scenes and card which will fit my bill has been only 6GB Titan that time and price has been around £1k and really I wouldn't never ever pay such money for GPU
Most of major renderers are OpenCL too,you have only few which are only CUDA only,but most of them converting to OpenCL,because using closed API is simply no point and this cost the company dearly,like Octane showed and Red Shift showed they will would want to support OCL in next releases and many companies said that same
Adding more features is not compatibility,but they listen what market wants and not just go with something what is closed and you don't have any control on the SW supplied as is CUDA,with OCL you can tailor this to yours needs if you know how to do so
Please post the fact,same scene in OCL and CUDA and which one will be faster,I've seen few test between the OCL and CUDA on V-RAY RT where Titan has been marginally faster than R9 290(3-10s) or in Premiere where OCL(R9 290 against the CUDA 780Ti) has been faster than CUDA based 780Ti and there are few other examples,few years back i wouldn't go with AMD as that time OCL has been in beggining and hasn't been mature enough,but after I've learned programming bit with OCL,I do prefer work with OCL
In most of OCL apps old 7990/290 will spank new Titan X and this is truth and i would rather compare apples with apples(same system OCL with OCL and CUDA with CUDA) and not apples with oranges,both are fruits,but both are totally different
And if I do offended you,please accept my apologies,sometimes I write faster than I'm thinking
Thanks,Jura