Just to clarify, since I have been seeing these types of posts both here and on Usenet. The purpose of GMAX is strictly for game modelling. There is and has been no intent to provide rendering capabilities, and it has not been touted as such. It is strictly for use in rendering game models and levels, providing a unified interface for multiple games. Just an FYI, since there seems to be a lack of understanding on what this tool is for. A very limited use, from a CGI POV. - Ray