@chaecuna
Sorry, my bad, I though you were all drunk, and for what it's worth, the Vickie looks nowhere near real and no better than could have been achieved with the previous one, or the one before that etc.

• The shiny black band is low-poly, and gives the game away.
• The eyes look flat, and give the game away.
• The skin shading looks nothing like real skin, and gives the game away.
• The stray hairs around the hairline are too thick, and give the game away.
• The whisp of hair behind her ear is too repetitive between strands to look natural, and gives the game away.

I hope that was "serious" enough for you, and that you might learn something from it.
Feel free to pass it on to your friends on the DAZ forum, it might help to lessen their superiority complex for them.

LMFAO

Well sorry, its my second render with iray and I'm still learning :)