@Zev0 The art by Shiba Shake proves that the artist is more important than the figure. It should go without saying. The expression also gives lie to those who claim Gen 4 figures can't do realistic expressions. It's a poor artist who blames his tools. 

It is a very good render and as you say, it makes the point that the artist is always more important than the figure.  Clearly Gen 4 can have realistic expressions, in the hands or really great artist most things are possible but Poser and V4 is also used by a vast number of people who are not really good artists, me included.  I can get much better expressions than I use to with V4 (thanks to a few tips I picked up in the forums) but as she is my go to figure it would be good if realistic expressions were just little easier.  One of the reasons I use V4 is because I can achieve so much with her but I am also trying to put some feeling into my renders and I do find the expressions a struggle at times

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.