I am NOT against community efforts at all...

What fed me up was that Antonia, V4WM and also Dawn were promoted as perfectly valid replacements for either a professionally made native Poser figure or FULL Genesis compatibility in Poser.

So everytime someone wished for a V4 replacement, they had to defend themselves for not being satisfied with Antonia, V4WM or Dawn.

Yes, DAZ meshes are copyrighted. That's why my weightmaps are all RTE-encoded.

And I do know that RTE-encoding is just as big a "No-No" to the average user as are conversion scripts.

But...I don't care, because I never built V3WM or D3WM or any of the others to be a true V4 replacement.

So to me it's the same if only one person uses them or one thousand. I even made them "open source" by allowing modification and re-distribution (as long as they are re-RTE-encoded again).

But once people manage the RTE-decoding, they can "one click" use them just as the original figures.

See, I know why you did what you did. And the idea and execution of "Outfitter" was brilliant.

But I think it is simply the wrong solution to the copyright problem because people are what they are.

What was needed was to start with an 100% SM made figure with just a good topology as V3 or V4 has. Or at least as Genesis 2 has.

With lots of realistic morphs provided and distributed by SM.

And the development of a kind of no-click Autofit tech by SM to auto-convert V4 clothing.

In short, lots and lots of official backup.

And payment for those doing the heavy lifting.

Because SM is not a bunch of friends working on free software in their garage, but a company just like DAZ, and if they want help earning $$$, they need to pay for it.

THEN I might have seen a chance to create a veritable "Vicky Killer" with the help of the community.

Do you think it is FUN to always play the "a**hole" part?

I much rather BUILD something than destroy it.

But I learned the hard way again and again that if you don't start RIGHT, a lot of effort and well meaning will be wasted.

And a lot of bitterness will be the result.

But maybe saying nothing and letting others just make their own mistakes is the lesson I should have learned earlier.