, I think both daz and poser need to have some kind of upgrade because if you think about it you contently have to buy certain things for daz in order to operate them correctly. poser seems old school but I have always found using the utilities as talk designer , and the walk designer easier to use unless you have different programs as the ones I mentioned lightwave 3d or even vue to list simple functions with daz I have to know where the hell to look and buy them for a certain price.  what I was mentioning in my first  blog was poser is not in everyones interest but it  did have a few simply things available to it. daz studio you get the software free but it can still be a pain in the ass trying to locate or find certain things you may need or have missed out on. but I like both programs to be honest the problem is I just can't find the time to learn everything about daz as I would like to with using 3d light wave or maya, vue you name it technology is contently growing in waves for software capabilities.