@ hornet3d,

I've come to respect you as a real Gentleman by your posts, because you never go overboard, and keep it modest all the time. I'd like to thank you for that here.

You're absolutely right in most of what you wrote, except one point maybe:

Provided you have a figure that prohibits most of the errors usually made in posing it (by constraining the body parts' bend and twist limits to something more himan-like), and adding a few other features, posing a figure like V4 can become a breeze.

My render above, from loading the figure, applying the mats, posing it, and rendering, was a matter of somewhat above an hour.

And "god forbid": I did have fun in doing it! :)

Thank you!

Peter

P.S.:

I don't consider my skill level as special - just a Poser user who's learned some things over the years. But the open source format of Poser's files is what makes Poser special, and allows us all to tweak our work until we have what we wanted to achieve.

That's the main reason why I'll stick to Poser b.t.w.

-P-

OHH, steady there, you will ruin the reputation I am trying to build as the gruff poser user.

Seriously, thanks for the comments, I do try and see merit in anything anyone writes and, if it is different from my point of view try to see why there might be a difference. Despite that there are some posters that seem to be able to push my buttons, particularly if they are trying to guide some new users down a road that may not be right for them.  In such instances the ignore button is very useful.  That aside, anyone with an aim to upset me personally has to get up early in the morning and be trying very hard to succeed, life is too short.

You are of course right in the comments regarding the ease of use of figures, which is just as well as with my limited skill level I would really struggle otherwise.  Luckily for me I can buy in some help thanks to a number of skilled vendors so I have a vast number of poses I can use to get my character to a pose that is close to what I need and adjust from there.  I have worked with V4, now V4WM, for so long now I am aware of the problems I might have with certain poses so I know where to look and how to use the morph brush to correct.

Realistic Posing is certainly is not difficult and if I gave the impression it is then that was not my intent.   I think the point I was supporting was the view that there is no perfect figure and that if someone has the time, skill, or motivation that fantastic renders are possible irrespective of the figure.  Some figures will be easier than others but it is still possible.

Finally I am so glad you admitted to having fun as reading these forums a new user could easily conclude that working with a certain figure/software and having fun was mutually exclusive.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.