Winterclaw opened this issue on Jul 21, 2015 · 146 posts
ssgbryan posted Sun, 26 July 2015 at 1:35 PM
Winterclaw, I love ya man, but enough with the chicken little.
You are asking for the same release strategy as V4 release. Those days are gone and they are never coming back - DAZ can't even manage that with their current figure - the reason there is more content for genesis 3 here than over at DAZ is because there are literally only a handful of vendors making content for it over there. Only the Cool Kid vendors had visibility on it before release - everybody else got blindsided. An interesting 2nd order effect will be seeing how that affects sales for any vendor that isn't one of the Cool Kids. The vendors here at 'Rosity (and to a lesser extent at RDNA) may suck all of the oxygen out of the room before they get going. The shake out over there will be interesting in the coming months. It is noticeable over there how some vendors are more equal than others. The genesis 3 release looks just like the release of any other figure not named Victoria 4. 113 items (to include converted genesis 2 (or earlier content) iray shaders, poses & bundles in a month - not my definition of a flood) Hell, even the customers in the DAZ forums have noticed that the walled garden is getting a little smaller.
About your manifesto:
1. This is not quantifiable - looks good means different things to different people.
2. This is not quantifiable. No amount of bending capability is going to please everyone - JHC, we can bend any damned figure into a pretzel now. And here is a little secret - most people aren't using Poser/DS to make yoga scenes.
4. This certainly makes sense.
5. We have this with figures already. They were also rejected.
6. We have had this with other figures already - initial burst, then nothing - because no figure will sell as much on it's initial roll out as V4 will after 8 years of user purchases.
7. That is a valid requirement, but see #5.
8. This is contradictory. To take full advantage of Poser capabilities, you have to let go of legacy processes.
9. Maybe the programmers at SM could add this feature to Poser - Perhaps they could call it THE FITTING ROOM. And for the people that are too cheap to upgrade Poser, there is Xdresser, Wardrobe Wizard, and Morphing Clothes - some of which have been around for nearly a decade already. Really, you should look around and see what features are actually available in or with Poser.
10. Good idea - then we could have a week of people savaging the figure before it was actually released and everyone could see it - that would really help sales figures.
I don't know where you have been, but every time a new figure is released, we go through the same rigamarole.
1. A number of people will savage the figure based on metrics that they would never apply to their preferred figure in a million years. Ever notice how people never compare a new figure to a stock V4, but instead the standard is a V4 with a 8 years of correction products attached.
That is the difference between the DAZ figures and every other figure - the DAZ figures have a million correction products made for them, 3rd party ones don't. That isn't just legacy figures like V4 - genesis 2 has just as many - which I find amusing since we have been told repeatedly have the genesis line IS THE BESTEST, MOST REALISTIC SET OF FIGURES EVAH!!!! Oh look, another correction product for genesis 2 was released over on DAZ today.
2. The usual suspects will drop converting their handful of products from the last g figure to the current g figure and disrupt every single thread on every storefront.
When they could be doing something more productive, like asking DAZ why the entire genesis 2 female lineup doesn't have a single figure or character that has eyebrows that follow the eye socket. Seriously, WTF is up with that? I am going to have to drag every single head texture (100+) into PE & manually rotate and resize the eyebrows to match the mesh to actually use the product.
3. The Luddites will scream poverty and whine about how they don't want to give up V4 and can't move to a new figure and they don't want to learn any feature that was added to Poser over the last decade.
4. V4 vendors will whine that any new figure will not have the same sales base as the 8 year old V4 from day one. The fact that it took both almost giving V4 content away for months and every storefront aligning with V4 before the figure became viable. Not to mention the fact that everyone seems to have forgotten all of the issues that V4 had upon release. Vendors aren't going to make anything for a new figure, because they don't want to - and you can't make us - neeneer, neener, neener. Vendors simply don't look long-term. This is a rehash of the We don't make male clothing because it interferes with our artistic vision.
OTOH - Project E is coming and it should be just what you are looking for.