What Wolf Said. I've been finding Iclone a godsend; very much a poor man's Motion Builder. And if you get it on sale, you can get the Pro version and the 3dXchang program for about $350 (or that's what I got it for. Need to keep your eyes open as the sales change regularly). Would I prefer an $8,000 OptiTrack mocap setup, oh hell yes! And if I can ever afford it, come to pappa! Until that time, I want as much capability and flexibility as I can beg, borrow, or steal out of my programs. I wouldn't bother messing with Iclone 5's rendering abilities; it looks like a crappy last gen game engine machinima render. But for importing set pieces from Poser, building motions in and around them, then exporting them into the identical set up in Poser for fine work and either final rendering or export to a Vue scene for final render, it is an excellent tool. If Poser ever gets the kind of animation tools that Iclone has, then it would be retired and all my work would be done in Poser. Until/unless that happens, its build a pipeline with whatever tools work. Not what tools are currently 'hot'.