Thanks! i tested his tutorial but there is one problem... creating the external obj resets the model to make it ENORMOUS!! that means i take it that i have to get the scale perfect BEFORE exporting it from my modeler? oh man i hope not cause that is going to suck... im working on a multi prop/figure package that will need a lot of interaction and its going to be very hard to compare all the sizes etc and have everything ready before exporting it from rhino. oh well, it may be that is the only way to do it... just my luck. at least i know how to make the obj external now though, ashame it screwed the size all to hell, now i'll have to re-joint and pose all the poseble parts in the scene because i have to start over from the modeler. if by any chance you know a way around this, that would be awesome, if not thanx anyway at least now i know how it works :)