Don't worry, odds are we'll eventually get there. Nature of the beast and all that. Jiggly bits? A whole heap of great big bouncing boobies over at Renderotica last time I looked. Not sure if they're using PP14 to do it, though, since the poses are all for doing animation and I have not a clue about that. They might even have wiggly willies, but I ain't seen any yet. Too busy trying to find something like this: https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/kinky-bodysuit/104742/ for the guys. With a few additions it's the perfect outfit for a character I'm working on. I'm thinking M4 but can adapt to V4 male if need be since he's more the bishie type than the more muscles than brains brigade he and his kinda James Bond-ish partner keep running into. (Yeah, they're spies. Been revisiting some TV favorites from the 60s and my muse finally decided to take notice. Twisted old tart insists I make Blondie wear nothing but catsuits, the slinkier the better.) Ideas, anyone? I tried the M4 bodysuit, but the zipper just doesn't go down far enough. :sigh: It ain't easy being sleazy. Especially if your name's not Vicky, you haven't got a sword, and there's n'ar a temple in sight.