Kix. Thanks for the input. I did build the models myself. I know many of the details are way off on the ships. For the Enterprise I used a tiny 4 model I have of it at home and for the reliant I put the movie in my VCR and pressed pause at key moments and made some quick sketches. Consider both ships needing an accuracy refit! I have seen your work in the gallery Kixum, excellent details and proportions, I am a fan. What do you use for reference material when building your ship models? memaci