Forum: Poser - OFFICIAL


Subject: Time to leave V4?

Dave-So opened this issue on Sep 20, 2015 ยท 238 posts


ssgbryan posted Wed, 21 October 2015 at 12:31 AM

I still use her - I got a wonderful collection of 1st nation morphs over at RDNA that I can't live without - and are not available on any newer figure - or I'd be using it. Not my default figure - I like variety. I belong to the "Right tool for the right job" school as opposed to the "1 size fits all" school.

I have been playing around with the golum over the past year (Turning it into a Poser native figure - No DSON needed.) I have a lot of g1 & 2 content (over 800 packages according to the incredibly accurately named DIM.). The only thing that g3 brought to the table was a fat chick. Color me unimpressed.

Be careful what you wish for......

If you guys and gals want to go down the genesis road, just understand the costs involved. The costs are serious, even you buy everything at 72% off, like I did. Much more than a new copy of Poser Pro (I am not talking the upgrade price, I am talking MSRP). I won't address the computer costs - you Mac users, for the most part are SOL, unless you have one of the good Mac Pros. Ask yourself, how many hookerware outfits will you forgo for that Nvidia card?

There is no fun quite like reading the phrase:

Find someone to help you.

In the "documentation". Yes, that has been in the document center for a few years now. No, I don't believe that they will fix it - this is a QA team that after four months, still cannot figure out how to package an OSX product with an OSX installer.

There is no one in the DS world that is an equivalent to the folks we have in the Poserverse forums - there are no BagginBills, Nerd-3d, Snarrly-gribbly, extending out DS the way they have.

Is a fat chick really worth this aggravation?

Good luck in finding content you have purchased - most of the clothing texture packs have no indication of what product they work with. They are all hidden away under ego folders. Did I mention how much drilling down you will be doing? God forbid you have a product made for both g1& g2. The recomended file structure changed between g1 & g2. (See the Mad Nurse product for an extreme example). You WILL be spending quality time rationilizing what DS uses for a runtime.

Another annoyance - when you are looking at those characters - the only way to tell if the figure is a stand alone or the DS equivalent of a .pz2 file is your memory. Good luck with that.

By all means, have fun buying the same products over and over (Some clothing products have objs that go back to the P6 Jessi timefame (I bought them here).

Any of you total up the cost of the "clones" you will need to move clothing between generations? For that matter, buying all of the add-ons to move your legacy content over is about the cost of Poser Pro in and of itself - I've run the numbers.

Understand that the concept of movement morphs in clothing is a lost art with most of the genesis vendors. I don't know about the rest of you, but I kinda got used to them a decade ago. Nothing like having a male suit with no sit morphs. Easy fix of course, just drag the product into the cloth room and.... oh, wait.

By all means, enjoy going back to a Poser 4 feature set - I'll pass. Have fun with the fat chick.

Take special note of the vendors who are using the same texture sets for each of their separate characters (more than one of the "cool kid" vendors is pulling this stunt - nothing is more irritating to me than to discover that I dropped 10.77 on what at the end of the day was nothing but a set of dial spins.). They really, really don't like the idea of YOU repurposing resources you paid for.

Speaking of that - did anyone here notice that the entire Daz g2 line up had fewer characters released for it than were released for the SM G2 line (I counted - did you?). (Most of the "Sculpts" - Aiko 6, Olympia 6, etc only managed six or seven characters, the males were even less). Have fun figuring out how to make your images "unique" when you have fewer and fewer resources available to you.

For all of it's alledged better bending, it's still getting fix products released to fix flaws.

I realize that most of you won't care about the "All Caucasians, All The Time", but if you are story telling outside of a Logan's Run universe, you are going to be quite limited in what you can do - and what is up with all of those blue-eyed Asians?

Note how the price goes up & you get less (with the g2f, anyone notice that with many figures, nail colors are no longer included, those are now a separate product - I did.). Note how it becomes more difficult (not to mention expensive) with each generation to use the figures - pay special attention to the aforementioned "cool kid" vendors - they get access to tools that the great unwashed mass of vendors don't have access to ("HD" morphs, anyone?).

Pay special attention to the fact that the figures themselves are 50% more expensive that the prior version, which in turn, are more expensive than the first version. Have fun keeping up with the constant changes in direction.

All of this for a fat chick?

DAZ is selling single use razorblades. SM sells us the Barbershop.