Dave-So opened this issue on Sep 20, 2015 ยท 238 posts
Khory_D posted Thu, 22 October 2015 at 1:34 PM
" You guys just don't get it. The figure fragmentation in the Poserverse has been a long time coming (and overdue in my opinion). I am glad I have choices other than V4. Poser gives me better tools than DS; and at the end of the day, figures are just another tool."
And I don't get what that has to do with anything. Is it a dig at Studio? It can use all those and genesis 3. And the tools is as always a matter of personal taste just like the user interface thing is a matter of taste.
"Once you move outside of the pinup niche, the genesis content is quite limited, as are the alleged "advantages" in the figures ability to bend over legacy figures (which I can fix in Poser - without dropping three or four hundred dollars and moving back to the Poser 4 era AFA software features)."
Aside from using all the old clothes from all those old figures of course...so the limit is to what you own more than what the figures can use. And I have no clue what you think you should spend 3 or 4 hundred dollars on unless your talking about to use something in poser...Maybe you would like to elaborate on what it is was so necessary and pricey and un-owned by so many of us? It must be something that no one has ever created for poser or else your thinking would be flawed.
"The biggest issue with the genesis lineup isn't the technology - it is the very limited vision of that handful of vendors that create for it. Here is a quick example - right now over on Fastgrab there are 2 male products by the same vendor, Jericho for M4 and Apollo for M6. Looking at the promo's, the only difference appears to be the chest hair."
Urm.. except for the whole use M4 textures on genesis and the ability to transfer any morphs from him which then gives you pretty much as much potential with genesis 1 and 2 as M4 plus anything created uniquely for him along with the addition of HD on top of those things. So M6 has the flexibility of anything M4, M5, and M6.
" Daz vendors are just rehashing what has come before - the same euro-trash early 20-somethings Poser vendors have been inflicting on us for the past decade. Sturgeon's Law in full effect. Not a good thing for a vendor, in my opinion."
Well if you can get some Americans, or south Americans, or Africans, or other non "euro-trash" persons to take all their clothes off and have scores of pictures taken of their entire body, including the naughty bits close up, for very little money please feel free to start selling them like hotcakes. The whole span of the 3d content providers will be thrilled to purchase these new and different resources. Until then everyone is stuck with the limited selections available.
That is the advantage of using many figures which Poser user can do, DS users can't. - the goals of the figure makers are different, the meshes are different, the morphs are different, the vendors making stuff for them are different. My stuff doesn't look like everyone else's. "
Why can't they? As far as I know Studio can still use ever one of those old figures that poser can.
"In my fan-fic, I need a multitude of characters - I can use any figure released in the past decade, with the exception of that fat chick Daz released."
Studio can still use all of those and it seems also some other character I am unaware of that is heavy set.
"How many black males are available in the genesis lineup? My options are several orders of magnitude larger than someone limited to genesis. I can use a genesis 1 or 2 character, I can use an Apollo Maximus character, I can use M1, 2, 3 or 4, I can use P6 James, I can use G2 Simon, or James, or Kelvin, I can use Dusk, or Rikishi. In my case, I have over 100 - how many does genesis have? Not a hundred, not even close.
If I need an Asian chick - in genesis I have about a dozen or so choices (blue eyed Asian are popular) - and only a couple come with black eyes. Wanna guess how many choices I have using Poser? Again, well over 100.
If I need a Caucasian chick - I have about 700 choices. What choices do genesis users have?"
If they are using genesis 1 or 2 they can use the skins from the v4/m4 line (actually with additional products they can go back even further texture wise) as well as the characters from their own generation and if it is Genesis 2 then the genesis one line as well. There are a few characters that use different UV's but that is not true of the majority. So most users would have as many DAZ based choices as you do. Plus they still have the use of any of the other figures created for poser excluding the poser weight mapped ones. I have to say I'm starting to wonder if you grasp how any of this works..
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