I use poser, I am heavily invested in V4, I don't do cheese cake shots, my renders are scenes and they tell a story. There would have to be a real reason for me to do things differently, Like the difference between day and night...There is no day and night difference between Genesis any thing and the version 4 figures, just more degree of difficulty in using them and yet another heavy investment of money...I am not making porn films so why would I really need such realism and cost. Yes I like the renders I see being done using the Genesis figures, but my renders are seen by most as being top notch already and I have yet to do my best work. A soon as I see a real need to use Genesis figures and or Daz Studio I will jump in, but until I get a professional job that can make Genesis worth having, I'll pass. [edited]