"Project E is actually a subdivided V4 with JCMs" Yes, maybe I missed that part. That could mean, that PE would never be published, because of EULA issues, which would be a big, big bummer. I was really looking foreward to release. I didn't say V4's mesh is bad either. I just think, that posing her with that old Poser4 rigging techologie doesn't give satisfieing results. V4WM is an improvement for sure, but not enough. Ero added, what was missing, to really make her usefull - As far as I can tell from the pictures. I really hope ProjectE will see the light of day. I am going to be quick to get her, just in case DAZ lawyers become active ;)