Morpheon posted at 10:06PM Mon, 02 November 2015 - #4236487

Razor42 posted at 1:34AM Mon, 02 November 2015 - #4236476

I have to say there does seem to be a conflict with the point that the DRM encryption is easy to circumvent, but I'm going to lose my content from it being encrypted. Either >the DRM is ironclad and content is totally pirate proof and you may lost your content. Or in the event of a disaster there will be enough innovative individuals to help you >restore their functionality. You can't have both.

My opinion is pretty obvious and my faith in Daz3D has yet to be misplaced but only you can decide what's right for you.

The last thing I'll say (for now, anyways -- I REALLY gotta get to bed).

The likelihood of DAZ simply disappearing (or even just the servers) is pretty small, but disasters do happen. (New Orleans with Hurricane Katrina, the Japanese Tsunami, just about any earthquake or wildfire in California, etc.) And that's just the Acts of God-kind of stuff. Then there's the financial stuff -- I don't know how old you are, but you may or may not know about how the video game industry in the 1980s was nearly wiped out and the damage it did to some companies (Atari, Activision, etc.) that you wouldn't have thought were vulnerable (or at least would have thought were better able to weather such events). DAZ may look good on paper now -- many companies do -- and then next week, you see that they're in bankruptcy court, because they or a parent company are on the ropes financially, and all the assets -- buildings, vehicles, furnishings, SERVERS, etc. -- get seized and sold off.

When people talk about a culture change at DAZ, they're talking about a very real thing. Maybe DAZ is all hugs and kisses when you're visiting them in their offices, but I'm one of those who noticed a switch, and my experience with them has been a pretty mixed bag, which is precisely why I (and a lot of other people) are a lot less willing to offer them the kind of trust you seem to be -- and certainly not the kind of trust that the scheme they're proposing requires. DAZ MAY do this or that IF they will or IF they can; and if they can't, then MAYBE somebody else will do this or do that (again, IF they can or IF they will) -- that's a lot of ifs and maybes -- too many to be comfortable.

Risk mitigation is PRECISELY why I'm firing up Poser now -- it's my transition tool away from DAZ Studio, with the certainty of salvaging at least SOME value rather than risking losing ALL value in DAZ's encryption scheme. And I wasn't kidding when I said I spent about $400 (or more) a month at DAZ. That money will now be going towards a new rig, a license for ZBrush 4R7 and possibly Substance Painter & Substance Designer, as well as subscriptions to Photoshop and Digital-Tutors. I'll even pick up some stuff here at Rendo that I've had on my wish-list for a while -- but not for anything that is for DS-only content and not from anyone who still sells at DAZ. It's gonna have to hurt before DAZ will listen to reason, and the only way to do that is to starve the beast.

That's it -- I'm off to bed. Have a good one, and thanks for the conversation...

Night mate,

Well it's sad to see you go but you seem like you've made a decision and I can respect that, also the door isn't one way. Hopefully time will ease your concerns and there will be a path for you to return in the future. I hope you acquire all those things on your wishlist DS developers are always in demand ;)

Thanks for the convo,

OT Warning Speaking of the 80s computer issue have you seen http://www.frombedroomstobillions.com it provides some great insights into the issues that created the fall of such mighty publishing houses and is a good trip down nostalgia lane. Here is the trailer if your interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnIdkHIMbOQ