Why didn't you just add a spoon to the picture Razor?. I am not sure how long this thread will last but for the record in the real world I would go for v6 then once rejected v7 once rejected I have another crack at v6 I don't give up easy. But this would require it's own thread. Although these are probably early images and we don't even know if finals there is work to be done and they are base figures. But I would also add Genesis 2 was only perfected by what the vendors managed to achieve IMO a great content creator hits the tools on any of these it is open season. Any could come up a winner

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