I so want to buy this cd, but I'm afraid that it'll be like almost every other time I've tried to learn to model something... but the way I look at it... it's only thirty bucks... and if I'm going to spend thirty bucks I'd rather the money go to someone like Phil... I never realized you lived in Kentucky Phil... (I'm originally from Ohio... Cincinnati to be exactly... so I'm well aquainted with the Bluegrass state... and I can honestly say I don't miss it one bit! ;) )