"There's a place for both programs and I never really understood the war between the two."

I understand that when Genesis first came out with no Poser support, Poser users were understandably very upset. What I don't understand is that the grudge has continued for as long as it has -- and moreover that it has gone so far that even users who no longer shop at Daz3d still get angry enough to sustain the argument. I also don't understand why Daz users feel the need to pre-emptively engage in warfare either. I get why they want to correct inaccuracies and myths about DS that are perpetuated in various forums, or to provide support to Poser users wanting to get Gen1 and Gen2 working, but other than that, it makes no sense to even take part in the arguing.

As always, it takes two sides to fight a war. And either side could end it if they just ignored the BS -- especially the personal insults and innuendos -- altogether. But I guess there are always going to be those users who seem to get more enjoyment out of arguing about software than they do actually using it. :D

Anyway, I'm downloading PP11 right now. The list of improvements looks like they come directly from the wishlists at RDNA and here. Plus, they really did add the one thing I said was my number one desire: a selection tool that allows you to select an element without translating it! I'm so happy I could bounce. It's plenty of proof, in any case, that SM was absolutely, totally, and certainly listening to their customers.

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PoserPro 2014, PS CS5.5 Ext, Nikon D300. Win 8, i7-4770 @ 3.4 GHz, AMD Radeon 8570, 12 GB RAM.