i have to agree it is a bad time of year to come out with a new version. the cycles renderer being added to poser is also a bit confusing to me as i use blender quite often so it feels like they stuck that in with firefly so like all the softwares they can say they have pbr engine now. the guy at the preview web said firefly is a way more 'creative renderer' in the right hands...so really that leaves custom parameter dails, that morph injection saving which was a little fuzzy about how it is saved just that you could sell them, didn't say what format it saves in, the new models and the male isn't even ready yet, game dev features included which means support for kinect, customizable short cut key script added, i'd like to upgrade because i have been a loyal poser user but i' m not impressed enough to put out 179.00 4 an upgrade now. like others for what it is i feel especially long time customers should get like a 99.00usd upgrade period. it's just too much...and i hate to say this even though i don't use daz but people are saying it surpasses poser now and is still free. i'm gonna wait and see what happens with it as well...good luck smith micro...hope you have lots of early adopters.