I tried that MacSavers. Doesn't work. They still 'parse' the card number, flag it as fraudulent and block the sale. PayPal is a no go for my credit card. Not that I'm banned, just the card. Part of my irritation is that I still get regular emails from them asking me to input new card details. Look, I know the vast majority have no problem with PayPal. Heck, my fiance could buy it for me if it comes to that, I'm just saying that there are a few people around like me who CANNOT use the service through no fault of their own, and was just suggesting to VWD that there are other options that are just as credible and would net a bigger return. You also don't have to limit yourself to a single service.