I am waiting to upgrade. Not interested in Superfly.... how is that better than Reality... how many PBR render engines do we need? The new figures Pauline and Paul (not even ready yet) are getting little support from SM or other sites/PAs. The divorce between Poser and DAZ seems final for whatever reason or fault. I get dynamic cloth in earlier versions of Poser so I don't see a need to shell out the money for an upgrade.