Carnifex... actually it was someone else that brought up WWII, I was merely responding. And no, I do not think that the US needs to go around forcing democracy on other nations... I was merely pointing out that Kuwait is no more free after the Gulf War than it was before. And don't kid yourself: they are oppressed. Women in that country can not work or drive or own property. Non muslims also may not own property. George Bush kept talking about "freedom" and "fighting back the aggressor" and not letting the act of "naked aggression" go unpunished as he wrapped himself up tighter and tighter in the American flag... and it seems to me that his boy is doing the exact same thing. As for ending the second world war, I believe it could have been done without nuking two major population centers. wave wave