First, let me apologize to the community right upfront. I was determined to stay out of further discussion related to the current events unfolding around us. I admit I havent the deft touch of a diplomat. I also realize I rub most of you the wrong way. However, there are just times when the misinformation or outright lies become too great to ignore. This is one of those times. >>>I was merely pointing out that Kuwait is no more free after the Gulf War than it was before. And don't kid yourself: they are oppressed. Women in that country can not work <<< Incorrect. Or that young lady behind the counter at the Burger King in Kuwait City was a figment of my imagination. >>> or drive < Incorrect. In fact, the women drivers of Kuwait are as aggressive or more so than the male drivers. I think they may have created the term road rage. >>> or own property.<<< This one would be too involved to try and explain to one who obviously has such a grasp of the facts of the world. Suffice it to say that there is discrimination but that women are allowed to own property. >>> Non muslims also may not own property.<<< So those Christian churches are mirages? Yes, as hard as it may be for you to believe, there are Christian churches in Kuwait. >>>George Bush kept talking about "freedom" and "fighting back the aggressor" and not letting the act of "naked aggression" go unpunished as he wrapped himself up tighter and tighter in the American flag... and it seems to me that his boy is doing the exact same thing.<<< Yes, well, they also wrapped themselves up in facts a bit more accurate than the facts you just offered. I do not know the source for your facts, but I will put it up against mine. State your source. >>>As for ending the second world war, I believe it could have been done without nuking two major population centers.<<< Agreed. But it would have cost ten to twenty times the number of lives. Casamerica