Shame LesBentley still doesn't post here... he could probably come up with something. I've changed joint orders before, after the fact, and other than the nag I didn't really have to adjust anything. It was from standard to curve and it wasn't the hip... probably alot more troublesome with the hip. I'm not sure why you are attempting to put your fundamental error (the hips order? That's something you would want to be high on your checklist) onto the end user. Fix it by any means necessary so it's correct out of the box for the user. Or start over. That's what I would do, if at all possible. I hope you don't get bent out of shape for my opinion, it's a valid one. After all, it's not even an original rig in the first place.

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