IceEmpress posted at 3:29AM Thu, 04 February 2016 - #4252993

I didn't realize that Renderosity is making strict rules on the products, now. Though they are well on their way to killing the forum community here. Oh, I forgot a very important and very negative difference about DAZ-- they don't allow off-site products in promo images, nor add-ons for off-site products to be sold in their store. I can't remember if Hivewire3D is the same way or not (bear in mind that Hivewire3D is a split-off from DAZ3D, so products from one store can be found in the other) Neither RDNA nor Rendo have such a rule. So the lineup of cons goes like this:

DAZ: Strict guidelines for products (must have metadata, many products rejected, etc.), super-strict forum TOS, no add-ons for off-site products, no off-site products in promo renders, Daz takes 50% of net vendor revenue-- more for non-exclusive products.

RDNA: Requires vendors to make products exclusive-only with few exceptions (generally software, scripts, and plug-ins) I can't remember how much net vendor revenue they take, but it seems like it was lower than 50%.

HIVEWIRE3D: Not sure, but might share Daz's off-site promo render and product add-ons ban (excepting DAZ products) Very limited selection of non-Dawn/Dusk/Luna products

CONTENT PARADISE: Dying. No forums, no email/on-site tech support (only phone#, which I'm not sure even works), no way for someone to become a new vendor. Product release date changes whenever said product is updated, creating the illusion that CP mostly sells low-quality products.

The main disadvantage to Renderosity is that, like DAZ, they take 50% of net vendor revenue.

I do agree so much with your comments regarding the forums here although I am not sure that the description of Hivewire3D being a 'split off from DAZ3D' adequately describes the situation considering the history though I guess it has some validity at a certain level.

I am not a vendor of any sort at any brokerage so I cannot vouch for the terms and conditions but I suspect that the lack of non Dawn/Dusk/Luna products is a product of the fact it is a very small team and the reasons behind why that team was born. There are some genesis products so there are some Daz related stuff and there is certainly more than any Dawn/Dusk/Luna stuff than you will see at Daz3D and Hivewire3D is the home of the stunning creations of Ken Gilliland and also Lisa's Botanicals. It should also be noted that both Daz and Poser versions of the figures are supported, another difference in trend from Daz3D at this present time. They also run a point system where you earn points on everything you buy that can be used against the cost of future purchases, again no up front fee is required.

As I said, they are a small team, and as the creators of Dawn and Dusk it is not surprising that the site is focused on such figures, and attracts their supporters, but that is only part of the story as the team strive to add to the the Hivewire3D family. There is already the superb Hivewire3d horse and if you want to see the effort put in to making some high quality, user friendly products look not further than the classic or Western Tack for this horse. Work is also in progress on a gorilla and a big cat and no doubt there more members of the family also in the planning stage.

I have no connection with the Hivewire3D team than being a happy customer, very active Dawn SE user, and someone who has found a home there after being, on the whole, constructively dismissed from Rendo forums. I would encourage anyone to have a look at Daz3D and Hivewire3D and make up their own minds but I personally think they are very different animals and it is fairly clear which I prefer.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.