Diane,It doesn't matter what figure or texture I use,It on,it won't convert to bum.Are you trying to say Pro pack doesn't need bum files no matter what.Does it read it as bump map anyway?How then do you make A bump file? I think I may be a little confused-probably because it is 3'o clock in the morning.I think it's time to go back to bed now. Thank,s for al your help, David