Razor42, I am not sure I would use the word tribe, but I guess for some it might be, it is a good set of observations though. I can relate to the various web site tribes in that I don't shop here, not because I think the corporation is evil but because of a distinct lack of customer focus, if that changed I would start buying here again. I do like Hivewire3D a lot and one of the things I like so much is that it is a good mix of both Daz and Poser users who play nice and help each other. I don't use DS but only because it crashes my system, many other use it without a problem so the problem must be my system. I could almost certainly get it to work but I have just decided I do not want to spend the time fault finding when Poser seems to provide all I need at this point.

I do shop at Daz but it is limited as I use Poser and not Genesis so that rules out a lot of products. I don't hate Daz though, it is up to them to run the business the way they see fit.

I would love everyone to be nice to each other but that does not mean we have to agree, I think a good healthy debate with respect on both sides is a great way to understand a situation and others. I am also world wise enough to know that is not going to happen other than in rare cases.

In the end it is just a hobby for me and I just wish others could enjoy it more, irrespective of their chosen tools.

 

 

I use Poser 13 on Windows 11 - For Scene set up I use a Geekcom A5 -  Ryzen 9 5900HX, with 64 gig ram and 3 TB  storage, mini PC with final rendering done on normal sized desktop using an AMD Ryzen Threadipper 1950X CPU, Corsair Hydro H100i CPU cooler, 3XS EVGA GTX 1080i SC with 11g Ram, 4 X 16gig Corsair DDR4 Ram and a Corsair RM 100 PSU .   The desktop is in a remote location with rendering done via Queue Manager which gives me a clearer desktop and quieter computer room.