Thanks to Hope, Malysse and Fivecat for snapping me out of the negative funk this thread has become. There were some legitimate points brought up on both sides. But damn this thing just goes on and on..... nobody getting any happier. I was tempted at times to jump in and throw some more gas on the fire. This kind of thing just sucks you in and takes the joy out of you. But this last bit reminds me of good things:shared interest, community helpfulness. Being apart of this site is like a marriage if it's not working out then leave. Don't stay and hate the other person. Leave and be glad you don't have to deal with situation anymore. Or stay and work it out but what ever you don't make yourself miserable about shit you have no control over.

Hey Fivecat thanks for putting me onto some good reading material. I checked out Hugh Howey on amazon. He has a huge amount of positive reviews. So I bought the Wool series 1-5. As soon as I get done with the Iron Druid series I'm gonna give em a go. You ever read any of Larry Niven's stuff? A Mote in God's eye and the Ring World series are really good.

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination".

Albert Einstein