Razor42 I know a lot wouldn't call Games ,Art or the Transformers ,but to me it's Art. If I like it then I like it. others can like it or not .call it what they want. Every one has there very own personal definition of ART.

This is what my point actually is Rorr, that what constitutes art is made up of a communicative relationship between the creator and item and the viewer. How naive or simplistic the method is or how the end result appears to others, really is irrelevant. Personal taste is a different thing again though. It is possible for someone to not like a genre or movement but it still be considered as art.

From what I can tell Eldritch is saying that the Point and Click Poser artwork, that some are creating, isn't really artwork because the level of creative input by the creator isn't enough to sanction it as uniquely their own creation. Basically saying they are the equivalent of the generic lamp. I'm attempting to say that P&C pieces are still "Art" as there is a communication triangle happening, even it is not to a particular viewer's own specific taste or definition of Art. There is a level of choice, control and direction added to the picture by the creator, even if it does use 3rd party elements, they still make it a communicative piece in my view. But you wouldn't have to look far to find an expert that will invalidate any picture made on a computer as incapable of being true "Art". And we're a long way off from decrying a NVIATWAS movement ;)

Anyways, We are getting a long, long way of topic...