LPR001 posted at 11:41PM Thu, 10 March 2016 - #4258416

@moriador Can you point out where Razor42 has labelled you a Daz hater please as I see no reference to it but I certainly see the claims being made that he has done so. If you have spent $2500 at Daz3D then I would think that would put you into the category of a very welcome Daz customer and I am sure Razor42 would agree.

Okay so he used the term tribe in his reference it would be up to you to place yourself into that tribe.

LOLOL. I've spent a lot more than $2500 at Daz. That amount was just in a single month.

Well, I had to use Google to search the forums because I knew that Razor42 did not use the exact term "Daz Hater" about me. He stated that I was engaging in an "US vs THEM" (Poser vs Daz) argument because I asked why someone who did not like using Poser was bothering to post in the Poser forum some very negative statements about Smith Micro along with questionable speculation as to the viability of Smith Micro's business. His statement, combined with his description of the various "tribes" posted above, would make me "Anti-Daz", which is essentially synonymous with "Daz Hater" in my mind.

Frankly, it's the labelling I object to.

Thing is, Razor felt it perfectly acceptable to accuse me personally of harassment and trolling for asking what his purpose was in posting such negative and purely speculative statements in a Poser forum thread.

But his own language is hardly gentle. Just in the process of searching for that one specific thread, I stumbled across some posts (there are many, many more than these to choose from). To wit:

"It's funny how Poser users have had an App snobbery outlook for years and years, but now they are quick to draw the same conclusion of DS users. DS for a very long time had been seen as Poser's inferior little brother. Now that DS has grown up. I see of lot of Poser users with a sneer on their face that are happy to deride anything DAZ simply because of the state of Poser. "

"don't expect to be allowed to have a reasonable discussion here about Poser's compatibility inefficiencies. all you will get is bullying and trolling no matter how diplomatically you raise an issue. That's how it rolls in here. Anyone who dares to go on and make a counter point the Poserphiles will yell "Troll,troll,troll!!!" over and over again until everyone wanders of."

"The reality is Poserphiles and SM have a personal grudge and they don't want to support these things for their customers."

"A wounded animal trusts no one and is likely to attack anyone, often for no valid reason. Seems a little like the behaviour of some of the peeps in this forum. There precious little Poser is hurt. So don't come close or ... ATTACK!!!" [emphasis added]

"If this Poser community wants to see some respect it needs to give a little too. A cornered wounded animal will bite anything, even a hand that is reaching out to help and heal it. Eventually that trait will be ultimately what leads to its demise. With some wounded animals the kindest thing that can be done is to euthanize it rather than risk oneself trying to help it." [emphasis added]

One can't call a community "a wounded animal", that ought be "euthanized" and then demand respect. It goes in both directions. One also has to give it. But given the history of Razor's posts and the threads in which he has participated, it's hard to see any evidence of that respect -- in EITHER direction.

As a result, I think he probably ought to refrain from grouping people into tribes because he can hardly be considered unbiased.

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