McGrandpa posted at 3:55AM Sat, 23 April 2016 - #4266617

Razor42 posted at 12:10PM Fri, 22 April 2016 - #4266422

" I am sure DAZ found a way to coerce both vendor and User."

That's a bit offensive isn't it? Coerce means to persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats.

DAZ3D or Daz Studio didn't force or threaten anyone to do anything. Vendors and PA's make these decisions of their own free will and it usually is to switch to a more viable platform based on their own experience. Not any 3rd party pressure.

The tone of this site is clearly aimed more to Poser users than Daz Studio anyway. Poser has 5 forums here, DS has 1, 99% of tutorials here are for Poser, Most news published here is Posercentric. Look at the front page, I see numerous mentions of Poser not a single mention of DS or Daz3D. This site sells Poser. The only thing that really isn't entirely Poser focused is the content that is created by 3rd party developers in the marketplace. And I would say without the use of force or threats they are free to create for whichever platform they chose to. Whether Poser, DS or Audio Sound bites if that's what they enjoy.

Offensive doesn't matter one iota. The fact does. You left a very important means of 'coercion' out. Ultimatums. And I know that ultimatums have been issued by the DAZ PtB's constantly over the last few years. Enough so it is clear the DAZ site is NOT a "free and open" environment in any area.

THIS site exists to serve users with content in their artistic endeavors. Regardless of software used. Until recently the majority of users here have been Poser users. The Management stipulates DS users and Poser users are now roughly the same percentage. Neither is 50%. Do not forget all the other software people love using. Vue, MAX, Bryce etc.

There has been for the last TEN YEARS a push here to include more DS specific content. There has certainly been a clamoring FOR it. And it IS happening. Get used to one thing though: UNLIKE AT DAZ, nobody here will be COERCED into producing DS only versions of their content. If you produce BOTH at DAZ (Poser only has completely disappeared) then you are promised YOU WILL LOSE MONEY. I have watched as a number of vendors who formerly stated plainly they hated DS suddenly ditch Poser entirely, close their stores here, and go to DAZ site exclusively.

Well, more power to em. More power to you. More power to ME, doing whatever I like doing, however I like doing it.

I do not think that Daz needs to coerce anyone because it is a good store with quality products. I started out with DS years ago when it just started, I went over to use Poser for a few years but when back to DS full time because of Genesis and the auto fit function among others. Vendors are not making products because they want to give them away and make you happy. They love what they do but they also want to make money. With so many people now using DS * and I know of people who wished they had made the switch from Poser to DS much earlier * there is high demand for Genesis products. I say Genesis meaning Genesis / G2F/G2M/G3F/G3M..

Please do not be sore that DS gets the attention that Poser once held. Sadly Poser is not the way forward anymore.

But you know, everyone should use the program that they love, Poser, DS, Carrara.. as long as you are happy But PLEASE do not put blame and guilt on the Vendors that either make products for both Poser and DS or moved on to DS and Daz3d. Times change and if you want to make money you go where you can make money.

Vendors put hours and hours of work in their products and they deserve to be in the store that they want to be and make money. Why should they stay and make products for something they do not have the passion for anymore?

There will still be plenty of characters / clothes and props for V4.2 and Michale 4... but as I said, people move on and that is their right and they sure do not deserve a post like yours here.