"I am just hopeful that seeing 80% of folks on Poser 9 or later will get vendors to get up off their asses and ditch Poser 7 and the Poser 7 way of doing things."

This will never happen without some governing authority enforcing a top down uniform standard as to what will be allowed in the marketplace.

Poser's/SM's business model ( ie charge hundreds of dollars for the program itself) causes many users to forego upgrading.

Therefore the marketplace here at renderosity cannot reasonably force content makers to abandon older formats.

"looked at the new pp version, but for a couple hundred more i could get Lightwave"

If your plan going forward is to create CG without major involvment of poser content then yes Lightwave may be a good option.

uggh!!.. this forum software is such rubbish!!!<<<