Thanks SpookyLilOne that's what I needed to do. Always wondered why Morphs++ would not work on V4, only V4.2. Never ran those because they have that DZ on them. Figured it was just for DAZ studio. At first I ran the .exe , didn't work. Then I started Poser, loaded M4 and ran the .py, didn't work. At last, since I always take the long road... I ran the .bat files!!! Hurray! M4 can be a new man. On my system the path looks like this: "C:\Users\EboMarconi\Documents\Poser\Runtime\Libraries\ !DAZ\DzCreateExPFiles-M4.bat" and likewise for V4 and M4-Gens. Thanks again and I will put a new free item for you all. I was inspired by a forum question of how to parent a camera. Never thought of it because in PP 2010 the cameras don't have 'SetParent' buttons. But, of course, I could do it in the Hierarchy Editor. So now I will model a shoulder mount CamCorder designed to be the parent of a dolly camera and upload it to my FreeStuff