At this moment in time.... I use Daz 4.9 Poser 2014 pro 11Pro still have 2012 pro Hexagon 2.5 and Carrara 8.5 pro with Corel Painter 2016 and Adobe Master 4 I am quite old well past my sell by date Daz 4.9 stopped working right on my Laptop Poser 11 will not run on Sony.... Daz at this time works on the laptop If I had took all the money I have put in to these programs I could have got one of the up market programs and my hair might just might be still black