I wish they would just stick to one goddamn base model. All those new Victorias for Genesis is so f***** unnecessary. It's like they can't just make ONE SUPERIOR version of her with everything corrected, no we need a V5, V6, V7, and soon there will be a V8. It's the same with the others too like David, Stephanie, Aiko, etc all new versions that come out like yearly with a new high price tag slapped on them with barely any new features. So yes I'm glad V4 is still around, I have no plans to switch over to Genesis and unfortunately that's upsetting that they would neglect a new base model for Poser since Daz is free, and Poser isn't. And there are always new versions of Poser coming out. I will switch to Genesis only because of the monster models I've seen that I want to use, and they have way more male stuff too for Genesis compared to M4 which is still lacking clothes and figures..