Forum: MarketPlace Customers


Subject: Why is there so much support for Genesis and very little for Poser now?

Lyne opened this issue on May 07, 2016 · 27 posts


Mythocentric posted Tue, 07 June 2016 at 4:40 PM

Hello again Tempesta3D, As you so correctly put it moves like the one by Daz on RDNA can only result in chaos and many people, like yourself, suffer as a result and it’s good that such actions as a result of Corporations like Daz are made public knowledge. However Daz is not the only player. Renderosity itself has a major role to play and the perception (that word again) is that Renderosity is playing to the Daz gameplan. That’s not a good position (except from the Daz viewpoint) for anyone to occupy and strongly indicates a limited, short-term outlook when its eyes should be on its long-term plans in the aftermath. Renderosity has a large part to play in the market and rightly sells products for both formats, though at the present time a potential buyer would find that difficult to believe with the emphasis given to Genesis, etc. That’s why I say Renderosity has lost the balance it used to have. I presume that other Poser users on the forum are already experienced in negotiating the site and are well capable of hunting down the items they want eventually, but to a buyer new to the market (and Renderosity!) the result is, to put it mildly, disappointing and disappointed buyers doesn’t make for sales. Sadly, I think that’s what it comes down to – money spelled out with capital dollar signs! The Corporate mind, as history proves time and again, is notoriously blinkered as long as the money is rolling in. Until the flood becomes a trickle because you’ve alienated a large percentage of your market in the process! Pretty much the same for those vendors who take the same short-term view. Just to illustrate how that resolves from my point of view – During May I spent approximately $57 at Renderosity. During the same period I spent over $250 at Hivewire! The reason for that is stupidly simple! I couldn’t find what I wanted at Renderosity so, like many other people I suspect, I went elsewhere! As you say it would be good if Daz and SM settled their differences but I’m afraid that a dream is what it will remain because of one simple fact. Daz is hellbent on monopoly! It’s very aggressive marketing strategy and recent actions prove that! How sad a comment it is to say that a lot of people will just sit back and allow it to happen. Does anyone really believe that the former owners of RDNA, safe in the comfort of their newly-acquired wealth, are bemoaning the loss of those vendors discarded in the pursuit of profit because they didn’t comply with the Daz Genesis mindset? My dream is that Renderosity (and its vendors) will remember that both Poser and Genesis have equal validity and give them equal billing in the marketplace and restore its former balance!

I must admit that as far as figures go I don’t usually give Pauline a thought. Poser itself is an excellent program (despite its little quirks!) let down by SM content which in my perception are aged and not really relevant in today’s market. It’s been argued elsewhere that backwards-compatability makes that inevitable, but there has to come a point where that becomes an excuse for failing to update content which is outstripped by the program which uses it. V4 too can be correctly seen as an older figure but remains, thanks to people like yourself, a major figure in the market. I must admit that out of 70 Gb+ of content I have in my runtimes, 40% of that is for V4! Dawn (and her sibling morphs Diva), I have great hopes for. Given the support by longer-sighted vendors I believe that she could become a worthy companion, or possible successor to V4. Again though, that depends on the few wiser vendors breaking out of the rut they’ve created for themselves and doing something about it!

At which point I will leave it. Apologies to Lyne, the OP for monopolising the thread unintentionally. She’s raised a very important subject which needs to be addressed and hopefully other contributors, both vendors and buyers, will find their voice and join in.

As one black sheep to another, (I’m the only artist in a family of labourers and manual workers going back to the ark!), I wish you well in your chosen career. It’s worth remembering that when all the dust has settled and the various combatants have crawled off to nurse their wounds and mourn they’re losses, we sheep will still be standing here quietly biding our time as always!