Mythocentric posted at 5:08PM Sun, 12 June 2016 - #4271996

A valid point well made. While the moneys coming in I think most people are happy to go with the flow. But I have to pose the question – how many of those vendors are capable of thinking in a business sense? Not many I suspect and of those even less who can view the overall picture in the long term needed to remain successful. That’s a point I believe Daz recognises and, as Tempesta has made clear, is churning out new figures (or more accurately, variations on existing figures) to keep the flow going. While this may add greatly to the Daz coffers in the short term it can only result in the market becoming saturated as you say. Where to then? G4, G5 and so on? We’ve already seen how ready Daz is (via RDNA) to dump any vendor who doesn’t comply with its own worldview. It would be nice to think that some of them would even remember Poser and remember that there is an outlet for their talent. That, of course, depends on the fact that the many Poser users out there have stayed around rather than looking elsewhere for content! Personally I doubt if they will. There are others out there. I’ve already mentioned Hivewire3D, not because I have any connection with the company but because I’m a very satisfied customer of a company who supplies what I want and gives me a choice of platforms in doing so. Fortunately we still have vendors like Tempesta, to whom I would add SAV (studioartvartanian) who produce items cross-platform (via multiple re-fits, etc) very successfully and is the only reason I now visit Renderosity, in addition to Mihrelle and her superb V4 characters. There are others out there not willing to follow the lemmings and they deserve our gratitude. I can only hope that Renderosity removes its blinkers sooner rather than later and shows its appreciation too by putting their Poser output where it belongs, on an equal footing with the rest. It’s easy to believe that Renderosity can only sell what its vendors produce. That’s a falsehood. Renderosity is here to make money and it’s Renderosity who decides what it sells, not the vendors. Yes! It’s a big market but it’s a market with a limited amount of money to spend on its preferred platform. If that section of the market is ignored as it apparently is at present, it will go elsewhere to Renderosity’s detriment. That’s a very simple equation which seems to have been missed by those who should know better!

I think it's actually misguided to think that vendors and rendo itself are being lemmings. The fact remains that the requests for content, and as a result what shows up in the store come from customers themselves. So in threads like this, it's actually better to place the blame where it needs to go; not at rendo, the vendors or even DAZ.

It lays squarely at SM's feet. As customers of Poser, you should have been pressuring them to make sure they stay up to date not only with technology, but also with the tools that vendors need to continue producting Poser content to keep you needs met. They haven't done so, poser users haven't taken SM to task for it, a good number haven't upgraded to new versions and quite simply the newer content hasn't been up to snuff for Poser users to continue using poser and have switched to DS to take advantage of new content. That's not DAZ, vendors or Rendo forcing users to do anything, that's simply SM (and their customers allowing them to do so) sleeping at the wheel while continuing to collect upgrade fees for little value and maybe some tweaks to the render engine.. but certainly nothing to keep the content developers competitive.

So instead of constantly creating threads moaning about why there's fewer Poser content, how about posting on SM's official poser forum and writing letters to SM telling them to give vendors solid tools for making figure-based content, and the other things you are mistakenly asking rendo to do for you? Also ask SM to take a page from Daz and make their tools vendor-oriented and make sure real vendors, not semi power users, are part of the development and testing process so that they can get feedback from those that will provide content in stores for you. That's really a better use of your time and far more productive. These threads are beating a dead horse because you are constantly complaining to the wrong people for assistance.

Note: If you do post a thread there asking for this, be prepared to be yelled at and silenced by those forum people because they feel nothing is wrong with what is going on.. which is another issue of why things are why they are now. It was certainly the case if you asked for better figures in the Poser forum here.